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		<title>Stop the recall madness (National Post)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/03/&#8230; March 8, 2010, 17:33:00 &#124; NP Editor Automobile recalls are inevitable, but today they are jumped on by those eager to advance their own agendas By Dennis DesRosiers In the past few weeks public outrage has been &#160;growing over major recalls at Toyota, followed by recalls last week by General Motors and &#160;Nissan. When [...]]]></description>
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<p>March 8, 2010, 17:33:00 | NP Editor <br /> Automobile recalls are inevitable, but today they are jumped on by those eager to advance their own <br /> agendas  </p>
<p>By Dennis DesRosiers  </p>
<p>In the past few weeks public outrage has been &nbsp;growing over major recalls at Toyota, followed by <br /> recalls last week by General Motors and &nbsp;Nissan. When will this stop? The short answer is that it <br /> won&#8217;t. What the public needs to understand is that vehicles have become &nbsp;so complex that it&#8217;s <br /> inevitable that every original equipment manufacturer (OEM) will eventually be hit with a serious <br /> recall.  </p>
<p>As regulators push the envelope on a myriad of social-policy agenda items like safety, the <br /> environment and fuel efficiency, while consumers continue to demand better and better performance, <br /> these companies will have no choice but to make their vehicles even more sophisticated. This is a <br /> recipe &nbsp;for more huge recall situations, and no auto maker will be immune.  </p>
<p>While the recalls won&#8217;t stop, maybe our perspectives will have to change. In fact, it&#8217;s already <br /> past time to put the brakes on the recall madness and the current media frenzy. &nbsp;To that end, I <br /> offer DesRosiers&#8217; 12-point All-Season Brake-the-Recall Madness Check List.  </p>
<p>1. The U.S. is a legal-driven society and the lawyers see very deep pockets in these OEMs. In the <br /> case of Toyota there are over 40 class-action lawsuits and dozens of individual lawsuits. And <br /> almost all of the talking heads in the media who are blasting Toyota have been lawyers involved in <br /> litigation. Since Toyota still has &nbsp;billions in the bank these lawyers are extremely motivated &#8211; <br /> and they &nbsp;themselves have deep pockets to keep this going a very long time.  </p>
<p>Closely related to this are some &nbsp;misperceptions about the impact of recalls. One is that a recall <br /> lowers the resale value of the affected products. I&#8217;ve been involved in legal cases as an expert <br /> witness and have found the opposite is true. I won&#8217;t get into why, but &nbsp;in the cases I&#8217;ve studied <br /> the resale value of recalled vehicles goes up, not &nbsp;down. However, the public and trial lawyers <br /> believe the &nbsp;opposite.  </p>
<p>2. Government in the United &nbsp;States is badly broken. This is problematic because politicians are <br /> elected to &nbsp;do something. Since they are in a partisan stalemate on most issues they need to send a <br /> message back home that they are working hard for their elected base. Why not beat up on an OEM?  </p>
<p>With Toyota, all the right buttons are there &#8230; &nbsp;safety, Japanese, the appearance of backroom <br /> deals, etc. So hold public &nbsp;hearings to spread the perception that the legislators are protecting <br /> the &nbsp;consumer. The Republicans also want to show that the National Highway Traffic &nbsp;Safety <br /> Administration failed, hoping to pin this on Barack Obama although the NHTSA has been <br /> malfunctioning for decades  </p>
<p>3. All of society is entangled in a growing &nbsp;net of government regulations. Regulations are <br /> extremely expensive for the &nbsp;automotive sector so all vehicle companies get into a cat-and-mouse <br /> game &#8211; hiring brigades of lobbyists, finding and exploiting cracks in the &nbsp;system, etc. Of course <br /> every automaker works the system, because the system imposes huge costs. But when a problem occurs, <br /> the target is the automaker &#8211; not the system itself.  </p>
<p>4. Most don&#8217;t realize it but there are literally thousands of complaints filed with regulators each <br /> year on issues involving vehicles. The vast percentage turn out to be not repeatable, leaving open <br /> the question whether there was a problem with the car or the &nbsp;driver. Many motorists just can&#8217;t <br /> admit or plain don&#8217;t know that they were at fault. Pedal misapplication &#8211; frantically pressing the <br /> accelerator pedal, thinking it&#8217;s the brake &#8211; is a recurring issue on most brands. I would add &nbsp;that <br /> poor emergency response by motorists is an even bigger problem. But &nbsp;elections aren&#8217;t won by <br /> telling voters that they are bad drivers.  </p>
<p>5. Consumers will not compromise on their desire to own the vehicles of their dreams &#8211; and at an <br /> ever lower &nbsp;cost. Toyota is the low-cost producer but a critical part of this success lay in moving <br /> to common components across its product range. Commonality of &nbsp;components means that when trouble <br /> occurs it affects millions of vehicles &nbsp;across many platforms. Thus the size of the current <br /> recalls.  </p>
<p>6. The consumer who owns a vehicle that has been recalled sees this as an opportunity to right all <br /> wrongs. No vehicle is &nbsp;bulletproof. Virtually all OEMs are guilty of over-promising and <br /> under-delivering and when consumers realize this many of them seek revenge. So when there is a <br /> recall they pounce.  </p>
<p>7. The American economy is still in a shambles, with very high unemployment. In this type of <br /> economy, the natural tendency is to go protectionist. Blame someone else, close the borders, look <br /> inwards. Toyota in particular is caught in this isolationist sentiment.  </p>
<p>8. The Number One player is always a target. For generations it was General Motors &#8230; today it is <br /> Toyota, joining &nbsp;McDonald&#8217;s, Wal-Mart and the New York Yankees among highly successful enterprises <br /> that many Americans love to hate. Toyota executives made some mistakes here as well. They <br /> steadfastly denied trying to be the biggest, when in fact everything they did was to become Number <br /> One. Including, it appears, getting away from their core manufacturing philosophy.  </p>
<p>9. Toyota and other offshore OEMs have caused a lot of pain in North America, where 1.3 million <br /> unionized auto manufacturing workers and about a million employees at car dealers have lost their <br /> livelihoods as overseas automakers beat up on the Detroit Three. So there is a lot of pent-up hate <br /> toward foreign nameplates.  </p>
<p>10. Don&#8217;t forget the unions. They have huge equity positions in GM and Chrysler, and all of Ford is <br /> unionized. These companies could benefit from Toyota&#8217;s woes. Unions are likely &nbsp;rabble-rousing <br /> behind the scenes on Toyota and any other import-nameplate &nbsp;issue.  </p>
<p>11. People die in vehicle crashes. Nothing is more stark than this. The vast majority of road <br /> deaths are caused &nbsp;by driver error, but that point is lost in the media. It&#8217;s human nature to want <br /> to blame the machine. Death is dramatic and the media always seem to &nbsp;spotlight the one out of a <br /> thousand situations where the problem was &nbsp;definitely with the vehicle.  </p>
<p>12. Finally, the United States government &nbsp;is a partial owner of two of Toyota&#8217;s biggest <br /> competitors, GM and Chrysler, so the politicians have skin in the game and are inherently biased. <br /> No one wants &nbsp;to touch this issue but it is the absolute most frequent question I&#8217;ve been &nbsp;getting. <br /> Everyone who talks to me believes this feeding frenzy is politically motivated, and it is hard to <br /> argue against this suspicion. Toyota executives have not used this as an excuse and indeed have <br /> publicly said they do not believe this is the case. But it will be interesting to see if there are <br /> hearings in Washington on the current GM recall.  </p>
<p>All of this is not meant to let any OEM off the hook when it comes to vehicle safety, or attempt to <br /> be an apologist for the industry. There is blame to be distributed and indeed any OEM that launches <br /> a formal recall is in essence accepting blame. However, the most important issue in any recall is <br /> how it is handled with the customer base, and all the OEMs have demonstrated over the years that <br /> they take these &nbsp;problems very seriously.  </p>
<p>Some have been accused of taking too much time to resolve specific situations, but none of us know <br /> exactly what is involved in &nbsp;identifying a recall issue and then fixing it. There is a lot of <br /> &nbsp;&quot;hair&quot; around this whole matter of recalls, and understanding some of this might help paint the <br /> picture a little differently than some might suspect.  </p>
<p>Financial Post <br /> Dennis DesRosiers is the president and founder, in 1985, of DesRosiers Automotive Consultants, <br /> Canada&#8217;s leading auto market &nbsp;research firm. </p>
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		<title>Almost on-topic: Anyone using a Bluetooth Speakerphone?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought a bluetooth hands-free on eBay for $14. You get what you pay for. The one good thing was it has a headphone jack, so I connected a Rad Shack amplified CB speaker for more ooomph, but the speaker is awkward. It is somewhat audible now. Part of the problem might be my old [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a bluetooth hands-free on eBay for $14. You get what you pay for. <br /> The one good thing was it has a headphone jack, so I connected a Rad Shack <br /> amplified CB speaker for more ooomph, but the speaker is awkward. It is <br /> somewhat audible now. Part of the problem might be my old Palm Treo 650, <br /> not known for their sound quality. <br /> 
<p>I want something LOUD! Remember, spring is coming and the Supra with the <br /> Sport Roof is coming out of the garage soon, and I want something I can <br /> HEAR!  </p>
<p>Some of them have FM transmitters as well, but I&#8217;m a bit leery of <br /> broadcasting my phone calls to the 5 cars around me&#8230;  </p>
<p>Any recommendations? </p>
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		<title>Rav4-Dealer recommended 30K service takes 3.5 hours?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. &#160;They wanted to know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services recommended by the Shop Manager. &#160;I said no THANKS, I would go with the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and minor checks of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. &nbsp;They wanted to <br /> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services <br /> recommended by the Shop Manager. &nbsp;I said no THANKS, I would go with <br /> the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and <br /> minor checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. <br /> 
<p>Do all dealers try this? </p>
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		<title>Re: OT &#8211; No surprise</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#34;dbu&#8221;&#34; &#60;nos&#8230;@nobama.com.invalid&#62; wrote in message news:wu6dnaVD2LGghAvWnZ2dnUVZ_vMAAAAA@giganews.com&#8230; &#62; In article &#60;hn4ta2$m7&#8230;@news.albasani.net&#62;, &#62; Conscience &#60;nobama@g v.com&#62; wrote: &#62;&#62; http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/08/poll-obama-dems-losing-gr&#8230; &#62;&#62; [By] 51 percent to 41 percent &#8212; Americans think the standing of the &#62;&#62; U.S. dropped during the first 13 months of Mr. Obama&#8217;s presidency. &#62; That poll is not accurate. &#160;The real margin is much wider, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;dbu&#8221;&quot; &lt;nos&#8230;@nobama.com.invalid&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:wu6dnaVD2LGghAvWnZ2dnUVZ_vMAAAAA@giganews.com&#8230; <br /> 
<p>&gt; In article &lt;hn4ta2$m7&#8230;@news.albasani.net&gt;, <br /> &gt; Conscience &lt;nobama@g v.com&gt; wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/08/poll-obama-dems-losing-gr&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; [By] 51 percent to 41 percent &#8212; Americans think the standing of the <br /> &gt;&gt; U.S. dropped during the first 13 months of Mr. Obama&#8217;s presidency.  </p>
<p>&gt; That poll is not accurate. &nbsp;The real margin is much wider, just stroll <br /> &gt; out into the hinterland and talk to the folks, the ones who vote. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve never strolled out into the hinterland and talked to the folks. <br /> Therefore, your statement is dubious in nature. Nothing new. </p>
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		<title>Re: {OT} Poll shows Obama, Dems losing ground</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:12:57 -0600, dbu&#8221; wrote: &#62; &#60;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/08/poll-obama-dems-losing-groun &#62; d/&#62; &#62; &#8216;A majority of Americans say the United States is less respected in the &#62; world than it was two years ago and think President Obama and other &#62; Democrats fall short of Republicans on the issue of national security, a &#62; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:12:57 -0600, dbu&#8221; wrote: <br /> &gt; &lt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/08/poll-obama-dems-losing-groun <br /> &gt; d/&gt;  </p>
<p>&gt; &#8216;A majority of Americans say the United States is less respected in the <br /> &gt; world than it was two years ago and think President Obama and other <br /> &gt; Democrats fall short of Republicans on the issue of national security, a <br /> &gt; new poll finds. &quot; </p>
<p>They&#8217;re sinking faster than Toyota&#8217;s record for reliability&#8230; </p>
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		<title>from cnn</title>
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		<title>What is Forex ? All Should Know It.</title>
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		<title>Toyota Prius Resource Center &#8211; Check Recalls</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Toyota Prius Resource Center 615 Auto Classifieds: Toyota Prius http://allworldauto.com/auto_classifieds/listVehicles.php?make=TOYOTA&#8230; Toyota Prius Auctions http://www.allworldauto.com/autos/Toyota_Prius_for_sale_43925-1.html 17 Toyota Prius Recalls http://www.allworldauto.com/recalls/toyota_prius_recalls_202-8251-1.html 190 Toyota Prius Service Bulletins http://www.allworldauto.com/tsbs/toyota_prius_technical_service_bulle&#8230; 41 Toyota Prius Investigations http://www.allworldauto.com/inv/toyota_prius_investigations_202-8251-&#8230; 748 Toyota Prius User Comments http://www.allworldauto.com/comments/toyota_prius_comments_and_compla&#8230;]]></description>
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		<title>prius recall new</title>
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		<title>valve cover gasket issue</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was changing the valve cover gasket on my wife&#8217;s &#8217;99 Camry. I was scraping off the old silicone that was there, when a piece about 1/2 inch long by, oh, say 1/8 to 1/4 inch wide fell in under a camshaft. I tried to fish it out, but then it went in under the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was changing the valve cover gasket on my wife&#8217;s &#8217;99 Camry. <br /> 
<p>I was scraping off the old silicone that was there, when a piece about <br /> 1/2 inch long by, oh, say 1/8 to 1/4 inch wide fell in under a <br /> camshaft.  </p>
<p>I tried to fish it out, but then it went in under the camshaft <br /> supports.  </p>
<p>How bad is this? </p>
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