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		<title>Comment on Japanese products good for only seven years by admin</title>
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		<description>When one has collector cars, that is often the case. &#160; ;) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&quot;C. E. White&quot; &lt;cewhi...@mindspring.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; news:hm673e$303$1@news.eternal-september.org... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;Corona&quot; &lt;remai...@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:ZX7JT8J740233.2998842593@reece.net.au... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Product support of Jap goods evaporates after seven years. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Minolta is a perfect example. It was beautifully made, but when &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; my 20 year old SLR needed a small part, the factory service &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; center told me I was SOL. Not so with Mercedes Benz. Need a &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; replacement interocetor, kranzafarber or krockenzoom for your &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &#039;47 MB Gull Wing, they have it in stock! My advice is to buy &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Kraut. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Product support for lots of thing ends after 7 years. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; How much do you think a part for a 1947 MG costs? Probably cheaper to by a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; new Lexus... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; If you have enough money, you can get a part for anything - just have one &lt;br /&gt; &gt; made from scratch. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Ed &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one has collector cars, that is often the case. &nbsp; <img src='http://www.toyota-autos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  <br /> 
<p>&quot;C. E. White&quot; &lt;cewhi&#8230;@mindspring.com&gt; wrote in message <br /> news:hm673e$303$1@news.eternal-september.org&#8230;  </p>
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<p>&gt; &quot;Corona&quot; &lt;remai&#8230;@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; news:ZX7JT8J740233.2998842593@reece.net.au&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt; Product support of Jap goods evaporates after seven years. <br /> &gt;&gt; Minolta is a perfect example. It was beautifully made, but when <br /> &gt;&gt; my 20 year old SLR needed a small part, the factory service <br /> &gt;&gt; center told me I was SOL. Not so with Mercedes Benz. Need a <br /> &gt;&gt; replacement interocetor, kranzafarber or krockenzoom for your <br /> &gt;&gt; &#8217;47 MB Gull Wing, they have it in stock! My advice is to buy <br /> &gt;&gt; Kraut.  </p>
<p>&gt; Product support for lots of thing ends after 7 years.  </p>
<p>&gt; How much do you think a part for a 1947 MG costs? Probably cheaper to by a <br /> &gt; new Lexus&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt; If you have enough money, you can get a part for anything &#8211; just have one <br /> &gt; made from scratch.  </p>
<p>&gt; Ed </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Corona&quot; &lt;remai...@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:ZX7JT8J740233.2998842593@reece.net.au... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Product support of Jap goods evaporates after seven years. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Minolta is a perfect example. It was beautifully made, but when &lt;br /&gt; &gt; my 20 year old SLR needed a small part, the factory service &lt;br /&gt; &gt; center told me I was SOL. Not so with Mercedes Benz. Need a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; replacement interocetor, kranzafarber or krockenzoom for your &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#039;47 MB Gull Wing, they have it in stock! My advice is to buy &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Kraut. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Product support for lots of thing ends after 7 years. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;How much do you think a part for a 1947 MG costs? Probably cheaper to &lt;br /&gt; by a new Lexus... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you have enough money, you can get a part for anything - just have &lt;br /&gt; one made from scratch. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ed &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Corona&quot; &lt;remai&#8230;@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:ZX7JT8J740233.2998842593@reece.net.au&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt; Product support of Jap goods evaporates after seven years. <br /> &gt; Minolta is a perfect example. It was beautifully made, but when <br /> &gt; my 20 year old SLR needed a small part, the factory service <br /> &gt; center told me I was SOL. Not so with Mercedes Benz. Need a <br /> &gt; replacement interocetor, kranzafarber or krockenzoom for your <br /> &gt; &#8217;47 MB Gull Wing, they have it in stock! My advice is to buy <br /> &gt; Kraut. </p>
<p>Product support for lots of thing ends after 7 years.  </p>
<p>How much do you think a part for a 1947 MG costs? Probably cheaper to <br /> by a new Lexus&#8230;  </p>
<p>If you have enough money, you can get a part for anything &#8211; just have <br /> one made from scratch.  </p>
<p>Ed </p>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:11:50 +0000, Corona wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Product support of Jap goods evaporates after seven years. Minolta is a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; perfect example. It was beautifully made, but when my 20 year old SLR &lt;br /&gt; &gt; needed a small part, the factory service center told me I was SOL. Not so &lt;br /&gt; &gt; with Mercedes Benz. Need a replacement interocetor, kranzafarber or &lt;br /&gt; &gt; krockenzoom for your &#039;47 MB Gull Wing, they have it in stock! My advice is &lt;br /&gt; &gt; to buy Kraut. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Most cars are only stocked on parts for 7 years. I&#039;m still able to get &lt;br /&gt; parts for my 23 year old Supra OK. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My Minolta SRT-101 is still in excellent shape and still taking pictures. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:11:50 +0000, Corona wrote: <br /> &gt; Product support of Jap goods evaporates after seven years. Minolta is a <br /> &gt; perfect example. It was beautifully made, but when my 20 year old SLR <br /> &gt; needed a small part, the factory service center told me I was SOL. Not so <br /> &gt; with Mercedes Benz. Need a replacement interocetor, kranzafarber or <br /> &gt; krockenzoom for your &#8217;47 MB Gull Wing, they have it in stock! My advice is <br /> &gt; to buy Kraut. </p>
<p>Most cars are only stocked on parts for 7 years. I&#8217;m still able to get <br /> parts for my 23 year old Supra OK.  </p>
<p>My Minolta SRT-101 is still in excellent shape and still taking pictures. </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 2&#26376;23&#26085;, &#19979;&#21320;6&#26102;22&#20998;, Michael &lt;mrdarr...@gmail.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; On Feb 23, 3:11 pm, Georgie &lt;remai...@reece.net.au&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; If by some miracle you don&#039;t, the engine is blown. Do you think &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; predict all you&#039;ll get is a Tojo grin. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Live to drive another day... collect the insurance money and buy a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; gently-used older model. &#160;The &#039;96 is pretty darned good. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Michael &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I have to say my 96 avalon is very good. It is approaching 380000 &lt;br /&gt; klicks and its still going at it. nothing mechanically is having &lt;br /&gt; problems. I recall pressing on the gas pedal in park, having the hood &lt;br /&gt; open, and watch the cable pull down the throttler. Drive-by-wire &lt;br /&gt; doesnt have that now. Even my other 2002 mazda tribute was recalled in &lt;br /&gt; 2004 for unintended acceleration, although we never experienced it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 2&#26376;23&#26085;, &#19979;&#21320;6&#26102;22&#20998;, Michael &lt;mrdarr&#8230;@gmail.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt; On Feb 23, 3:11 pm, Georgie &lt;remai&#8230;@reece.net.au&gt; wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize <br /> &gt; &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. <br /> &gt; &gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. <br /> &gt; &gt; If by some miracle you don&#8217;t, the engine is blown. Do you think <br /> &gt; &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your <br /> &gt; &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I <br /> &gt; &gt; predict all you&#8217;ll get is a Tojo grin.  </p>
<p>&gt; Live to drive another day&#8230; collect the insurance money and buy a <br /> &gt; gently-used older model. &nbsp;The &#8217;96 is pretty darned good.  </p>
<p>&gt; Michael </p>
<p>I have to say my 96 avalon is very good. It is approaching 380000 <br /> klicks and its still going at it. nothing mechanically is having <br /> problems. I recall pressing on the gas pedal in park, having the hood <br /> open, and watch the cable pull down the throttler. Drive-by-wire <br /> doesnt have that now. Even my other 2002 mazda tribute was recalled in <br /> 2004 for unintended acceleration, although we never experienced it. </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Toyota would cover the engine it the car was still under the &lt;br /&gt; warranty? &#160;;) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&quot;C. E. White&quot; &lt;cewhi...@mindspring.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; news:hm66u7$1s5$1@news.eternal-september.org... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;Georgie&quot; &lt;remai...@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:W395UZQ240233.2998958333@reece.net.au... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; If by some miracle you don&#039;t, the engine is blown. Do you think &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; predict all you&#039;ll get is a Tojo grin. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; This won&#039;t happen with modern computer controlled engines. They&#039;ll jsut &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rev to the computer limiteed red line and nothing will happen. Try it. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Besides, if you choices or death or a blown engine......... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Ed &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Toyota would cover the engine it the car was still under the <br /> warranty? &nbsp;;) <br /> 
<p>&quot;C. E. White&quot; &lt;cewhi&#8230;@mindspring.com&gt; wrote in message <br /> news:hm66u7$1s5$1@news.eternal-september.org&#8230;  </p>
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<p>&gt; &quot;Georgie&quot; &lt;remai&#8230;@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; news:W395UZQ240233.2998958333@reece.net.au&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize <br /> &gt;&gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. <br /> &gt;&gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. <br /> &gt;&gt; If by some miracle you don&#8217;t, the engine is blown. Do you think <br /> &gt;&gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your <br /> &gt;&gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I <br /> &gt;&gt; predict all you&#8217;ll get is a Tojo grin.  </p>
<p>&gt; This won&#8217;t happen with modern computer controlled engines. They&#8217;ll jsut <br /> &gt; rev to the computer limiteed red line and nothing will happen. Try it.  </p>
<p>&gt; Besides, if you choices or death or a blown engine&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt; Ed </p>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Georgie&quot; &lt;remai...@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:W395UZQ240233.2998958333@reece.net.au... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize &lt;br /&gt; &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; If by some miracle you don&#039;t, the engine is blown. Do you think &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your &lt;br /&gt; &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; predict all you&#039;ll get is a Tojo grin. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;This won&#039;t happen with modern computer controlled engines. They&#039;ll &lt;br /&gt; jsut rev to the computer limiteed red line and nothing will happen. &lt;br /&gt; Try it. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Besides, if you choices or death or a blown engine......... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ed &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Georgie&quot; &lt;remai&#8230;@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:W395UZQ240233.2998958333@reece.net.au&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize <br /> &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. <br /> &gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. <br /> &gt; If by some miracle you don&#8217;t, the engine is blown. Do you think <br /> &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your <br /> &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I <br /> &gt; predict all you&#8217;ll get is a Tojo grin. </p>
<p>This won&#8217;t happen with modern computer controlled engines. They&#8217;ll <br /> jsut rev to the computer limiteed red line and nothing will happen. <br /> Try it.  </p>
<p>Besides, if you choices or death or a blown engine&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  </p>
<p>Ed </p>
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		<description>On 02/23/2010 03:11 PM, Georgie wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize &lt;br /&gt; &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;not any fuel injected car buddy - rev limiters prevent that. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;only in the fantasy world of bullshitters that don&#039;t know about fuel &lt;br /&gt; injected engines! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; If by some miracle you don&#039;t, the engine is blown. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;see above. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Do you think &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your &lt;br /&gt; &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; predict all you&#039;ll get is a Tojo grin. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;what do you get for posting this shit? &#160;$14/hr? &#160;if you worked at mickey &lt;br /&gt; d&#039;s, you might not make as much, but it would be honest labor, something &lt;br /&gt; from which you could actually benefit. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; nomina rutrum rutrum &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 02/23/2010 03:11 PM, Georgie wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize <br /> &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. </p>
<p>not any fuel injected car buddy &#8211; rev limiters prevent that.  </p>
<p>&gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. </p>
<p>only in the fantasy world of bullshitters that don&#8217;t know about fuel <br /> injected engines!  </p>
<p>&gt; If by some miracle you don&#8217;t, the engine is blown. </p>
<p>see above.  </p>
<p>&gt; Do you think <br /> &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your <br /> &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I <br /> &gt; predict all you&#8217;ll get is a Tojo grin. </p>
<p>what do you get for posting this shit? &nbsp;$14/hr? &nbsp;if you worked at mickey <br /> d&#8217;s, you might not make as much, but it would be honest labor, something <br /> from which you could actually benefit.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> nomina rutrum rutrum </p>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:11:51 +0000, Georgie wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize when the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. Then you lose the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; power assist to brakes and steering and crash. If by some miracle you &lt;br /&gt; &gt; don&#039;t, the engine is blown. Do you think Toyota will cheerfully replace &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the engine or blame you on your own negligence for overspeeding the engine &lt;br /&gt; &gt; to its destruction? I predict all you&#039;ll get is a Tojo grin. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;1. They have rev limiters. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. Who gives a fuck about the car when you&#039;re out of control? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3. More cases sound like Operator Error, like the lady in Congress who &lt;br /&gt; &quot;shifted her car into neutral, put her feet on the brakes and used the &lt;br /&gt; emergency brake&quot;. Right. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:11:51 +0000, Georgie wrote: <br /> &gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize when the <br /> &gt; rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. Then you lose the <br /> &gt; power assist to brakes and steering and crash. If by some miracle you <br /> &gt; don&#8217;t, the engine is blown. Do you think Toyota will cheerfully replace <br /> &gt; the engine or blame you on your own negligence for overspeeding the engine <br /> &gt; to its destruction? I predict all you&#8217;ll get is a Tojo grin. </p>
<p>1. They have rev limiters.  </p>
<p>2. Who gives a fuck about the car when you&#8217;re out of control?  </p>
<p>3. More cases sound like Operator Error, like the lady in Congress who <br /> &quot;shifted her car into neutral, put her feet on the brakes and used the <br /> emergency brake&quot;. Right. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Go ahead, shift the runaway car into neutral by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Georgie&quot; &lt;remai...@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:W395UZQ240233.2998958333@reece.net.au... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize &lt;br /&gt; &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; If by some miracle you don&#039;t, the engine is blown. Do you think &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your &lt;br /&gt; &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; predict all you&#039;ll get is a Tojo grin. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Amusingly, you just tried to trash the only method that makes sense, &lt;br /&gt; according to everyone but you. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Georgie&quot; &lt;remai&#8230;@reece.net.au&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:W395UZQ240233.2998958333@reece.net.au&#8230; <br /> 
<p>&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize <br /> &gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. <br /> &gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. <br /> &gt; If by some miracle you don&#8217;t, the engine is blown. Do you think <br /> &gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your <br /> &gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I <br /> &gt; predict all you&#8217;ll get is a Tojo grin. </p>
<p>Amusingly, you just tried to trash the only method that makes sense, <br /> according to everyone but you. </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All cars today have rev limiters &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&quot;charlesgrozny&quot; &lt;n5...@sprynet.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:sPSdnYXWbpZ18hnWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;Michael&quot; &lt;mrdarr...@gmail.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:a45b17e7-b769-42f4-9cb8-31384657d49d@u5g2000prd.googlegroups.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; On Feb 23, 3:11 pm, Georgie &lt;remai...@reece.net.au&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; If by some miracle you don&#039;t, the engine is blown. Do you think &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; predict all you&#039;ll get is a Tojo grin. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Live to drive another day... collect the insurance money and buy a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; gently-used older model. &#160;The &#039;96 is pretty darned good. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Michael &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; The first rule of ANY incident is, what can you do to survive? &#160;Cars are &lt;br /&gt; &gt; replaceable, people are harder to replace. &#160;(Although with some of the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; IQ&#039;s I see around here, I can think of a couple that despirately need &lt;br /&gt; &gt; replacing.) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Sure I might ruin an engine, but I survived. &#160;(Besides, my reaction would &lt;br /&gt; &gt; probably be &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; 1. &#160;Kick it into neutral &lt;br /&gt; &gt; 2. &#160;Hit the foot brake and move to the side of the road. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; 3. &#160;Shut off the enigine. &#160;It&#039;s not going to take that long before I&#039;ve &lt;br /&gt; &gt; shut it off. &#160;Besides, most &#039;runaway&#039; engines end up self-limiting the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; upper RPM&#039;s. &#160;I&#039;ve not had one yet to rev all the way past redline unless &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I was pushing the accellerator that hard. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Charles Grozny &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All cars today have rev limiters <br /> 
<p>&quot;charlesgrozny&quot; &lt;n5&#8230;@sprynet.com&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:sPSdnYXWbpZ18hnWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com&#8230;  </p>
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<p>&gt; &quot;Michael&quot; &lt;mrdarr&#8230;@gmail.com&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; news:a45b17e7-b769-42f4-9cb8-31384657d49d@u5g2000prd.googlegroups.com&#8230; <br /> &gt; On Feb 23, 3:11 pm, Georgie &lt;remai&#8230;@reece.net.au&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt; The unloaded engine will race to twice the redline rpm and seize <br /> &gt;&gt; when the rods are thrown or valves float and hole the pistons. <br /> &gt;&gt; Then you lose the power assist to brakes and steering and crash. <br /> &gt;&gt; If by some miracle you don&#8217;t, the engine is blown. Do you think <br /> &gt;&gt; Toyota will cheerfully replace the engine or blame you on your <br /> &gt;&gt; own negligence for overspeeding the engine to its destruction? I <br /> &gt;&gt; predict all you&#8217;ll get is a Tojo grin.  </p>
<p>&gt; Live to drive another day&#8230; collect the insurance money and buy a <br /> &gt; gently-used older model. &nbsp;The &#8217;96 is pretty darned good.  </p>
<p>&gt; Michael  </p>
<p>&gt; The first rule of ANY incident is, what can you do to survive? &nbsp;Cars are <br /> &gt; replaceable, people are harder to replace. &nbsp;(Although with some of the <br /> &gt; IQ&#8217;s I see around here, I can think of a couple that despirately need <br /> &gt; replacing.)  </p>
<p>&gt; Sure I might ruin an engine, but I survived. &nbsp;(Besides, my reaction would <br /> &gt; probably be  </p>
<p>&gt; 1. &nbsp;Kick it into neutral <br /> &gt; 2. &nbsp;Hit the foot brake and move to the side of the road. <br /> &gt; 3. &nbsp;Shut off the enigine. &nbsp;It&#8217;s not going to take that long before I&#8217;ve <br /> &gt; shut it off. &nbsp;Besides, most &#8216;runaway&#8217; engines end up self-limiting the <br /> &gt; upper RPM&#8217;s. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve not had one yet to rev all the way past redline unless <br /> &gt; I was pushing the accellerator that hard.  </p>
<p>&gt; Charles Grozny </p>
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