The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
cannot be turned off.
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Jun
04 Corolla: headlights don't turn off….
geronimo wrote:
> The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
> stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
> so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
> with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
> security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
> be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
> base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
> headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
> hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
> cannot be turned off.
They’re called daytime running lights (DRLs).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp
You may have a switch that lets you turn the DRL feature on or off. Read
your owner’s manual. And, if you don’t have one, get one.
Jeff
geronimo <Jam…@grandecom.net> wrote in
news:edhqs39co9cke179sprfj593gnmcl7gfqu@4ax.com:
> The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
> stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
> so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
> with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
> security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
> be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
> base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
> headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
> hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
> cannot be turned off.
They are called Daytime Running Lamps (DRLs).
Many people are annoyed at them, so many that Toyota has issued a document
describing how to turn them off.
I can email this document if you wish. You can then have your local dealer
or a garage perform the work of disabling the DRLs.
–
Tegger
Yea, I dug out the manual and found the part about the daytime running
feature. According to this, I should be able to come to a stop, engine
running, and apply the parking brake, and the headlamps should then go
off. But that is no good for my situation, as I am supposed to have
the lights switched off when approaching the guard shack, BEFORE
stopping at it. I am an avionics tech/electrician so I can easily add
a switch on the dash somewhere to turn them off. A lot of work for
some stupid feature not needed in the first place! I guess the next
thing the nanny govt. will mandate is that the car won’t move forward
unless all passengers are buckled in…and of course no way to
over-ride that, either. Thanks, geronimo
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:05:52 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2…@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>geronimo wrote:
>> The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
>> stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
>> so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
>> with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
>> security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
>> be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
>> base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
>> headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
>> hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
>> cannot be turned off.
>They’re called daytime running lights (DRLs).
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp
>You may have a switch that lets you turn the DRL feature on or off. Read
>your owner’s manual. And, if you don’t have one, get one.
>Jeff
Yes, please do email the doc!
I went and looked at the dash sensor. It is funny….it is just a gray
plastic (and opaque!) button that I can’t pull up. How can it sense
anything when it is just an opaque plastic button? It appears like a
filler. But obviously the car does have this feature. I found
through google that on some cars, all you have to do is pull the
sensor up, and insulate one terminal, and this defeats the feature.
Thanks, geronimo
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <teg…@tegger.c0m>
wrote:
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>geronimo <Jam…@grandecom.net> wrote in
>news:edhqs39co9cke179sprfj593gnmcl7gfqu@4ax.com:
>> The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
>> stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
>> so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
>> with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
>> security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
>> be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
>> base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
>> headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
>> hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
>> cannot be turned off.
>They are called Daytime Running Lamps (DRLs).
>Many people are annoyed at them, so many that Toyota has issued a document
>describing how to turn them off.
>I can email this document if you wish. You can then have your local dealer
>or a garage perform the work of disabling the DRLs.
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geronimo wrote:
> Yes, please do email the doc!
> I went and looked at the dash sensor. It is funny….it is just a gray
> plastic (and opaque!) button that I can’t pull up. How can it sense
> anything when it is just an opaque plastic button? It appears like a
> filler. But obviously the car does have this feature. I found
> through google that on some cars, all you have to do is pull the
> sensor up, and insulate one terminal, and this defeats the feature.
> Thanks, geronimo
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <teg…@tegger.c0m>
> wrote:
>> geronimo <Jam…@grandecom.net> wrote in
>> news:edhqs39co9cke179sprfj593gnmcl7gfqu@4ax.com:
>>> The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
>>> stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
>>> so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
>>> with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
>>> security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
>>> be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
>>> base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
>>> headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
>>> hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
>>> cannot be turned off.
>> They are called Daytime Running Lamps (DRLs).
>> Many people are annoyed at them, so many that Toyota has issued a document
>> describing how to turn them off.
>> I can email this document if you wish. You can then have your local dealer
>> or a garage perform the work of disabling the DRLs.
The sensor can be adjusted for darkness levels. The dealer may be able
to disable it entirely if you explain to them nicely that it is a
security issue for the United States Military.
The Toyota dealership will want to charge an arm and leg for disabling
it.
Looks like all that has to be done is cut red/wh wire going to term 12
of DRL module to disable DRL and auto-lights feature.
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:14:15 -0500, "Ph@Boy" <u…@example.net> wrote:
>geronimo wrote:
>> Yes, please do email the doc!
>> I went and looked at the dash sensor. It is funny….it is just a gray
>> plastic (and opaque!) button that I can’t pull up. How can it sense
>> anything when it is just an opaque plastic button? It appears like a
>> filler. But obviously the car does have this feature. I found
>> through google that on some cars, all you have to do is pull the
>> sensor up, and insulate one terminal, and this defeats the feature.
>> Thanks, geronimo
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <teg…@tegger.c0m>
>> wrote:
>>> geronimo <Jam…@grandecom.net> wrote in
>>> news:edhqs39co9cke179sprfj593gnmcl7gfqu@4ax.com:
>>>> The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
>>>> stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
>>>> so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
>>>> with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
>>>> security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
>>>> be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
>>>> base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
>>>> headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
>>>> hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
>>>> cannot be turned off.
>>> They are called Daytime Running Lamps (DRLs).
>>> Many people are annoyed at them, so many that Toyota has issued a document
>>> describing how to turn them off.
>>> I can email this document if you wish. You can then have your local dealer
>>> or a garage perform the work of disabling the DRLs.
>The sensor can be adjusted for darkness levels. The dealer may be able
>to disable it entirely if you explain to them nicely that it is a
>security issue for the United States Military.
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geronimo wrote:
> The Toyota dealership will want to charge an arm and leg for disabling
> it.
> Looks like all that has to be done is cut red/wh wire going to term 12
> of DRL module to disable DRL and auto-lights feature.
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:14:15 -0500, "Ph@Boy" <u…@example.net> wrote:
>> geronimo wrote:
>>> Yes, please do email the doc!
>>> I went and looked at the dash sensor. It is funny….it is just a gray
>>> plastic (and opaque!) button that I can’t pull up. How can it sense
>>> anything when it is just an opaque plastic button? It appears like a
>>> filler. But obviously the car does have this feature. I found
>>> through google that on some cars, all you have to do is pull the
>>> sensor up, and insulate one terminal, and this defeats the feature.
>>> Thanks, geronimo
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <teg…@tegger.c0m>
>>> wrote:
>>>> geronimo <Jam…@grandecom.net> wrote in
>>>> news:edhqs39co9cke179sprfj593gnmcl7gfqu@4ax.com:
>>>>> The headlights are ALWAYS on! I switch the headlights to OFF on the
>>>>> stalk, but the headlights do not turn off. They do dim very slightly,
>>>>> so I would think the stalk switch itself is OK. I just bought the car
>>>>> with 80K miles. The seller says that there is nothing wrong, its a
>>>>> security feature for them to be on whenever the car is on. This might
>>>>> be OK for most people but not for me. I work nights on a military
>>>>> base, and the guards are upset with me if I don’t turn off my
>>>>> headlights when approaching the gate…it blinds them. I just have a
>>>>> hard time believing they are designing cars with headlights that
>>>>> cannot be turned off.
>>>> They are called Daytime Running Lamps (DRLs).
>>>> Many people are annoyed at them, so many that Toyota has issued a document
>>>> describing how to turn them off.
>>>> I can email this document if you wish. You can then have your local dealer
>>>> or a garage perform the work of disabling the DRLs.
>> The sensor can be adjusted for darkness levels. The dealer may be able
>> to disable it entirely if you explain to them nicely that it is a
>> security issue for the United States Military.
I’m pretty sure it’s accessed through the ECM. Just wear your uniform
and explain the situation of your funds. If I were running the service
department it wouldn’t cost you a plug nickel. Thanks.
geronimo <Jam…@grandecom.net> wrote in
news:ehmqs3pd44jqier8enel3ogvthbc7jd1g9@4ax.com:
> The Toyota dealership will want to charge an arm and leg for disabling
> it.
> Looks like all that has to be done is cut red/wh wire going to term 12
> of DRL module to disable DRL and auto-lights feature.
Sounds like you may already have got it from somebody. But check your mail
anyway.
–
Tegger
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